Defending the International Legal Order: Lex Pacificatoria podcast episode with Sabine Nölke


In this episode of the Lex Pacificatoria podcast, Western Academy Visiting Fellow Sabine Nölke speaks with host Michael Campbell about her extensive diplomatic career, the evolution of Canadian foreign policy, and the future of multilateralism. She reflects on her role in providing guidance to the government in drafting key international treaties, the challenges of creating accountability mechanisms, and the personal qualities needed to succeed in diplomacy today. She also shares candid insights into Canada’s shifting alliances in the Trump 2.0 era, the erosion of trust and expertise in international relations, and why she remains cautiously optimistic about international law’s enduring role.
You can listen to the podcast episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, YouTube, or on the Lex Pacificatoria website.


